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Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2331

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Has Anyone Seen Any sign of Activity from SirP as of lately. I know I havent but Am only online for a certain fraction of the Day, So am wondering if anyone else has besides me becuase am personally tired of trying to send my units down to a planet and they want to go to the Systems Local Star instead -_-

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2332

SirP has been AWOL from communicating with me since september. i think i annoyed him.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2333

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[quote="Trifler" post=2329]Minister wrote:

BTW, you'll probably get more out of Destroyers than Frigates. The Frigates are essentially just used for bombing planets in this game (only Frigates can bomb). For ship-to-ship combat, the Corvettes out-do the Frigates.


Actually before I left I was using very powerful pulse weapons on frigates that did some major damage. It became all the rage until tp exploited a bug that sirp would not acknowledge as a bug.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2334

kinda nice to see another guild use bugs instead of just TC / AO. not fun on the receiving end is it?

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2335

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Is there a place I can learn most of these bugs I believe it may being it me.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2336

problem is everyone kept them super secret and hoarded them.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2337

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Key word "kept" I am sure many if them have been pasted down to younger members. I think we should keep pasting them down until the game is fixed or dies. And I hate to say it but it looks as if it is going towards the second option:(

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2338

yes unfortunately. the game concept was good. execution was poor. MMORTS is not something that can easily be made. some argue it cannot even be made right due to teh nature of how MMOs and RTSes work.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2339

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There is another.. -Yoda


Novus Aeterno

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 2 years, 3 months ago #2340

back in 2012 i spoke with Nick Nieuwoudt (lead dev) about the pitfalls that BP ran into , and the various things hed have to watch out for. skype called for about 2-3 hours. anxcon was involved with them for a time as well. they arnt quite the same thing. but i have hopes.

if i ever get into it, give me a call.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 12 months ago #2362

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Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 12 months ago #2363

I code a bit, and VB is pretty easy. but i could never run a server (i dont know how to SQL). several members of the game have attempted to run servers before and "update, upgrade" the code. none have succeeded unfortunately. after protocol's operator is a bit ... skittish... but yes. i can help you. just be aware, before you try to market the game, it needs to be "fixed" send me a PM here in the forums(to keep botscrawlers from parsing out my email). there are a few things we should discuss first.
oh. and the source files are here, but seriously, mail me.

sourceforge.net/projects/beyondprotocol/

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 12 months ago #2364

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Sirp is the one that was maintaining after protocol but i think his personal life is the priority now.

I thought it was a condition of the original owners of bp that the game could not make money since they made the source files available to everyone.

He has done a lot of work on the game fixing code. I am not convinced cyrus that you could fix it better. I also noted awhile back about you saying that we were using bugs to our advantage. Personally I disagree with you. I believe i was using designs as they were permitted.

The bug that made me leave was simply sirp not understanding that when he downtime the server the ai orders would stop working. So my buildings where no longer firing on my enemies until i reset the ai. TP was taking advantage of this wither intentionally or not. It does not matter to me that they were using this advantage what mattered was sirp was unwilling to understand it as a bug. I have perfect components, max radar tech yet I was getting out ranged it seemed. So he kept on saying he agreed that 255 rng should be the cap on where people could shoot. I disagree with a 255 rng cap. What my problem was the ai resetting and not defending my bases when i was offline. So I left guild and suicided so tp would leave my guild memebers alone.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 12 months ago #2365

yes. SirP has done a great job smoothing out BP. its commendable. and yes, i think his personal life is his focus right now.

yes no money whatsoever (INCLUDING DONATIONS) can me made to any aspect of "Beyond Protocol". you would have to make a new game.

Yes. i agree with you whole heartily ghosage, i cannot "fix it better" by myself. i would be delusional to think i could manage all on my own. i have ideas, solutions for balance, but i cant think of everything. and to be fair, i sometimes think of stuff thats simply too much. so yes. bring a community in, and we can debate it. we need the means and the mode to do so.

TC / AO has a lot of bad blood aimed at it for sins of past and present (inaction mostly and unwilliness to aid new people ). you yourself were complicit in multiple genocides. i have no pity for your empire crumbling. Schadenfreude. we had railed against the tyranny of AO/TC and Light/cypherleiu for along time. even though the universe was crumbling, your blood was still to be had.. and it was so sweet.

note that this vengeance-y thing is only related to Beyond protocol and Afterprotocol. any new games we may play would have a clean slate.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 12 months ago #2366

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Ghosage wrote:

The bug that made me leave was simply sirp not understanding that when he downtime the server the ai orders would stop working. So my buildings where no longer firing on my enemies until i reset the ai.


This is the same bug that forced the Devs to remove the resource gathering mechanic during beta. Even so, routes and, as you say, building defenses, still would go offline after server maintenance. From what I understand, Enoch was never able to discover what was causing the problem, despite extensive investigation, and he's the guy who wrote the original code.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 12 months ago #2367

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Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 12 months ago #2368

I will email you shortly, and i will also inform Afterprotocol's curator of your offer in the morning when he is awake and not liable to be upset at me for waking him.
Last Edit: 1 year, 12 months ago by Cyrusblack2.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 9 months ago #2387

DeeDiebS wrote:
Has Anyone Seen Any sign of Activity from SirP as of lately. I know I havent but Am only online for a certain fraction of the Day, So am wondering if anyone else has besides me becuase am personally tired of trying to send my units down to a planet and they want to go to the Systems Local Star instead -_-


Same here, is it "just" a bug?
any way to avoid it?

was looking for some unknow rule?
Last Edit: 1 year, 9 months ago by MetAssassina.

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 1 month ago #2573

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[quote="Ghosage" post=2333]Trifler wrote:
Minister wrote:

BTW, you'll probably get more out of Destroyers than Frigates. The Frigates are essentially just used for bombing planets in this game (only Frigates can bomb). For ship-to-ship combat, the Corvettes out-do the Frigates.


Actually before I left I was using very powerful pulse weapons on frigates that did some major damage. It became all the rage until tp exploited a bug that sirp would not acknowledge as a bug.


look at the pot calling the kettle black. Looking at this statement I have to say this, When AO is winning, good fight, when they are losing, exploit or your cheating, please, give me a break

Re: Lazy Newb Pack/ General help for Newbs 1 year, 1 month ago #2574

... it took you this long to respond to that!?
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